rob, it is good to see you over there as opposed to here in washington, d.c. i need your help though. explain to us for -- how for the past 20 years, or you can go all the way back to world war ii if you want, give us the historical perspective on this relationship . >> certainly, since world war ii, relations between china and japan have been very strange. the chinese still remember a lot of the atrocities committed by the japanese imperial army to many chinese. there is certainly not a lot of respect and rapport among the chinese chinese and japanese people. that being said, trade is one area where they have broken down a lot of cultural social areas because of the ideas that strong, improved economic relations will create -- >> what is the problem? i mean, i have spoken to a lot of people, obviously from the chinese side about this. one of the sticking points is that they feel that japan, number one, isn't sorry, and they haven't taken the position to apologize. very similar to what germany did to a lot of other countries and nationalities during world war